When Madrigal asked for evidence supporting Hicks’ allegations, Hicks explained that he hadn’t actually visited any classes. “Why even go? I based my thoughts on hearsay from others,” he said, perhaps not grasping the negative connotations of the word “hearsay.” He also suggested that teachers had brainwashed students by feeding them burritos.
Madrigal also met with former Mexican American studies teacher Curtis Acosta, who refuted Hicks’ claims. “We don’t teach them to hate white people. What we’re trying to do is teach a more complex version of what has happened in our past.” Acosta also insisted that he was not some kind of anti-American radical. “I think this is a great country. In some countries I might actually be locked up for teaching the way I have. In this country, I’m just banned from doing it,” he said, seemingly in earnest.